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Dear Dr. Hurst,

My daughter is 13 months old and has suffered from OME since the age of 4 months. She has had an average of 2 ear infections per month. My pediatrician has spoken to me about tubes on several occasions, but now she does not respond to the same medication twice in a row. For example, she was on Zithromax for 5 days and then we waited 5 days and started it again as a preventive. During the 2nd administration of it she developed a severe infection in the right ear. She is now finishing up the Vantin and seems to be clear. The pediatrician has recommended an ENT (whom is not an allergist) to do the surgery and I am having trouble finding an ENT-Allergist in my area. (Pompano Beach, FL - near FT. Lauderdale/Boca Raton) I am skeptical of tubes because I do not feel it is a solution to the problem, only to the symptom. Is 13 months young to have tubes placed?

 

Thanks again and Happy New Year.

Barbara

REPLY:

 

There are basically 2 types of ear infections: Your daughter shows the first type - that is recurrent infections, one right after another, which usually clear in 1-2 weeks. These are the children who are most easily cured by tympanostomy (hole in the ear drum) tubes. If your daughter not only has recurrent infections, but also does not clear easily, than she may ALSO have allergies. At her age foods are the most common culprit. I would suspect her MILK first. So switch her to soy milk or better - stop all dairy, including cheese if she is old enough to have a decent diet. Otherwise, put in the tubes, trust your physician and wait until she is 18 months or older to try the milk elimination diet.

 

Good Luck

Dr. Hurst

What about TUBES ??

 

To: <MeEAR@earthlink.net>
Subject: Your theory on Allergy as cause of OMB with effusion
Date: Thur, 19 Sep 1996

I was hoping that I could get some input from you on this problem.....

My five year old daughter has been diagnosed with OM with effusion in both ears. A hearing test today confirmed significant hearing loss in both ears. Otherwise she is healthy and fine. However, this diagnosis was discovered after I consulted an ENT doctor because of a persistent nasal congestion that several doses of antibiotics (prescribed by a pediatrician) would not clear it up. He gave her a nasal spray that he said only works for allergies. So I am pretty sure that she has allergies. (There is also a history of allergies on her father's side.) Anyway, the ENT and audiologist recommend tubes. I am really not happy about that and have been searching the Internet for alternative treatment, but besides your page everyone recommends tubes more or less. I really don't know what to do. She has just started Kindergarten and I don't want her to be disadvantaged because of her hearing. However, I am really concerned about the traumatic experience of surgery. I am very open to suggestions at this point. Maybe you can find the time to answer me. I would really appreciate it. Thanks a lot.


Mrs. I.G., Middletown, NY

REPLY:

Thanks for taking the time to try an E-mail letter to me.

I understand your anxiety at having your daughter have surgery to
place tubes in her ears - but you should go ahead.


There are 2 reasons to put the tubes in: FIRST, you want her hearing back to normal as soon as possible so there is no FURTHER speech and language delay, and so she gets all that you and your husband are trying to teach her at home. SECOND, the fluid contains various mediators and enzymes which in themselves perpetuate the inflammation that causes the fluid to form and to remain. So until it is removed, it may not clear for several months - or the underlying allergy will repeatedly get your daughter's ears to make more mediators which will cause the fluid to re-form this winter, should it happen to clear briefly anyway.

Getting the tubes in buys you a year (until they fall out) to find the UNDERLYING CAUSE so you can get that under control and not have to put in a second set of tubes - as happens 15 to 30% of the time!!
So good luck.

As I mentioned on the TREATMENT PAGE: ask your Pediatrician to at least draw a RAST or better yet, a THABEST (Molecular Medicine) and see for himself if allergies are present. Or better yet, see an ENT who also does allergy - a member of AAOA (AAOA@AOL.com) in your area.
Good luck.
Dr. Hurst

Dear Dr. Hurst:

I have a four and a half month old daughter who has had a chronic ear infection since practically birth. She has had a total of five different antibiotics and is currently taking Vantin. My pediatrician stated that if that doesn't work, he wants to consider putting tubes in. He feels that she is pretty young and would prefer to wait until she is a year old but since the ears are not clearing, he feels he does not have a choice. She was born only two weeks premature (8 lbs at birth) but with respiratory distress syndrome and spent 11 days in the NICU, five of them on a respirator. She received intravenous antibiotics during that time.


Re:My questions are: Did her time in the NICU cause or contribute to her ear problems? Is she really too young for tubes? (I sincerely hope not... I would like her to feel better and her screaming is making me crazy) Is it possible that she has a food allergy? She got breastmilk for approximately three weeks and then Nutramigen formula and is now on Lacto-Free formula.

Sincerely,

B.J.

 

REPLY:

Dear B.J.

It is doubtful the NICU had any effect - and certainly not her prematurity. Infants with this much ear disease usually are allergic to the milk and your peds is right to try the Nutramigen. Did that help? If not, then probably tubes by age 7-10 mos is reasonable.

Dr. Hurst


Dear Dr. Hurst

I have an one year daughter who has had an ear infection in both ears since August. They seem to clear up but as soon as she goes off the medicine they reoccur. Prior to August I breast-feed my daughter. It seems as soon as I stop breast feeding her they occurred. My daughter has been on Amoxicillian, Zithromax, Suprax, Cedax, Lorabid, Augmentum, Gantrisin (spelling could be wrong) and now they have her on Cefzil. We went to see an ear, nose and throat specialist and he stated that she as a slight hearing loss. He would like to see her again in April to see if she has regain any hearing loss. When she gets these infections, she usually has a runny nose, and the past couple of months she has been getting teeth (could that be part of the reason). For your information, I just put her in day care in December - so she had ear infections prior to day care. Also, I am not exactly sure what to do next - tubes? I look forward to your response. Thank you for your time.

Denise

REPLY:

Dear Denise

Your story is classic for allergic otitis due to the milk you started to feed your daughter.

Six different antibiotics later and no better!!!

Unfortunately, tubes will help the best, but be prepared for draining ears if you do not find which milk bothered her.

Dr. Hurst

MORE QUESTIONS ON TUBES:::::

Regarding Stephen:

Our two year old son, has been experiencing chronic ear infections since

December 1995, when he was 13 months old. He started day care that same month and got his first cold (which was the beginning of our problems). Since then, he has had numerous colds and a faucet as a nose. The middle ear has had fluids ever since (on both sides).

We have already taken him to see an ENT Specialist which recommended the tubes, however, we would prefer not to have to put him through that operation (having to put him under). Therefore, we asked what else could be done, unfortunately, the only alternative was limited to monitoring his hearing and to assure ourselves that he does not experience any loss of hearing.

At his first hearing examination (just yesterday), the examiner informed us that his inner ear seems to be working well, however, his hearing decreased below the normal level when the middle ear was not bypassed. The examiner indicated that she would like to re-examine him when his ear is not infected, unfortunately, that situation may not occur for a while.

When we whisper, he does not hear us. This is true irrespective of where we are.

Thank you in advance for your assistance in this troubling time.

Regards

 

REPLY:

The first consideration is to return hearing to your child. To do that the fluid must be removed. It has been proven that hearing loss for just 3 months on one side alone will result in decreased IQ scores in both reading and math skills in children under 7 years old. Language is most critical in its development at age 2 to 4.

The fluid must be removed to 1) restore hearing and 2) the fluid itself contains various enzymes that irritate the area and produce more fluid. That means tubes.

The only risk of tubes is that when the tubes fall out sometimes the hole does not close and leaves a perforation.(1% in small tubes and up to 30% if the large "permanent" type are used.) Also there is the inconvenience of using ear plugs when swimming so as not to let water get in and cause and infection.

Many parents are understandably afraid of anesthesia - which is safer than taking an airplane ride.

Dr. Hurst

Dear Dr. Hurst:

Our 10 month old has had chronic ear infections and constant drainage. She is always gagging herself (as if she's trying to scratch her throat).

After multiple antibiotics and tubes, she is worse. Now her ears are draining a green/yellow/brown fluid which the doctor said was pseudomonas bacteria which oral antibiotics can't kill. He prescribed chibroxin drops. What is your advise?

Thank you so much.

I love your WEB SITE!!!!!

 

REPLY:

Dear Bobby & Char:

Your child definitely needed to have the tubes placed, but the child who has continual drainage after having tubes in ALWAYS has allergies. Just as they would make her nose run, so they make her ears run!!

At her age the most likely culprit is a food.- Try eliminating all dairy products for a week, then challenge her. You cannot see what her ears do, but can see what her runny nose does. Milk allergies account for 1/3 of the cases of draining ears. If not that, then she needs a full blood evaluation - RAST - for other foods and dust, etc.

DR. HURST

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dear sir,

I have a 22 month daughter who had tubes put in sept 1997. she was 11 months old. I work at a hospital and I'm a paramedic and lab tech. she kept getting constant ear infections. she goes to the hospital's private day care on site of the hospital, getting colds and everything else was to be expected. and I look at it, she either gets now or she'll get everything when she starts school. nothing serious but a few bad colds and RSV and the darn ear infections and constant antibiotics....finally I was asked about tubes....and the DR said if she was to get one more, each she did 3 days after finishing her antibiotic. so, tubes were ordered and placed in by a ENT. knowing everybody in the hospital helped and coming from a medical background, I knew his was a final solution. one week after the tubes placed in, an immediate difference......she has been only placed on 2 antibiotics since (once for strep). I'm deaf in one ear due to an early childhood injury, so being partly disabled, I didn't want this for our child.

After the surgery, we gave the normal care, which I've enforced strictly. tonight, after giving her bath, I looked in her ear for drainage, only excepting to find maybe yellow wax, but to my surprise......the turquoise blue colored tube almost out! she had been fusing all afternoon, but I blamed it on her age and it being close to 95 degrees outside. I called a friend in the ER and she told be that if it doesn't fall out in a few days or she developed a high temp to call my pedi. dr.. if you can see what time I'm writing to you, you can see I'm worried and concerned. we live in a small community, and the hospital I work for has started their own insurance company, which is why I think my pedi DR waited so long....know one told me that this was only a temp. fix. she responded so well to the tubes....my DR never tested for allergies. I want the little critter put back in there.....she suffered she much and being a mother, I don't want her to suffer anymore. she doesn't talk as well as the other children in her class at day care, but she's catching up beautifully. I don't want her to be delayed again...please give suggestions on what to look for. how can I get my DR to ok for more tubes.....will the infections show up quickly now that we are entering flu/holiday season? help!!! now what? no milk restrictions placed and no changes in post nasal drip. it was like a miracle once the tubes were placed in. hardly any colds and if so....only a day or 2...pretty normal. she doesn't get that milk......1 4-6 oz. in am. maybe she'll take some at luch, but mostly she wants juice..so I give it to her. and sometimes she'll want milk while my husband or myself read to her....rarely though. that's it. or is that a lot? please responded. I don't want to act crazy to my pedi DR, but I'm scared for my daughter too.

 

Dear Dr. Hurst

I have a Two 1/2 year old daughter, she is constantly telling me her ears hurt. At one point when she was about 16 months old, She had so many ear infections that at 19 months they inserted the tubes in both ears and she was a total different kid. The whining stopped, she talked better,She even ate better.

 

Dear Dr.David Hurst

Our 4yr old daughter is about to go for a second set of tubes (Nov 28,96).The last set were put in in April '96. we are concerned because she has been having reoccurring 'ear infections' since about the age of six months. Our doctor, at the time simply prescribed antibiotic after antibiotic, and told us to put oil (cooking or baby oil) in her ear when she complained. After about 18 infections we finally got fed up and changed doctors. This doctor immediately sent her to see a specialist, who then performed the tube insertions in both ears. She has since had several reoccurring infections and they have been giving her antibiotics again. What is your feeling on this??? Should we be worried ???

It is now six months (approx) after the first set of tubes, were put in.Our last visit to the specialist (Nov 21, 96) sent him into a panic...he was so shocked that the ears were infected to the degree they are, he immediately booked an appointment for the surgery. We are frustrated,distraught, confused,and pretty angry because of the incompetent way the doctors seeing to our daughter have handled her case.

Can you please advise us on what to do. I know that this is quite a request, but after reviewing the information on your web page, we are more informed than we have ever been. We would like to send her for the allergy testing you recommend, do you know of any specialist who can help us out in the (Hamilton Ontario and or surrounding areas, Canada).

Yours sincerely,

Karl & Melanie

 

REPLY:

THE CHILD WITH CONSTANT DRAINING TUBES ALMOST ALWAYS HAS FOOD ALLERGIES.

DO NOT WORRY - It was correct to put in the tubes but THE FACT THAT THEY ARE STEADILY DRAINING IS A SIGN OF ALLERGY AND ALMOST ALWAYS IT IS TO A FOOD. FIRST TRY TO ELIMINATE ALL HER DAIRY PRODUCTS - NO MILK, CHEESE, ICE CREAME OR YOGART FOR 2 WEEKS (Water is wonderful - no one is allergic to it). THEN, AFTER 10 DAYS - LOAD HER UP !! SEE IF THE DRAINAGE - AND RUNNY NOSE STOP. PROBABLY 30% OF KIDS LIKE YOURS ARE ALLERGIC TO DAIRY PRODUCTS. OTHERWISE GET HELP FROM AN ENT ALLERGIST.

BEWARE: BEFORE YOUR DAUGHTER HAS FURTHER SURGERY ON HER EARS - GET ANOTHER OPINION. CALL THE CANADIAN SOCIETY OF OTOLARYNGOLOGY OR THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF OTOLARYNGOLOGIC ALLERGY (AAOA) TO GET HELP.

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Dear Dr. Hurst,

I'm writing because my 9-month old son has been on five different

antibiotics consecutively for the last three months. The " infection " was discovered during a well-baby exam at 6 months. My son seems oblivious to the infection and has had no symptoms or fever. Your articles are making me suspicious that he is suffering from an inflammation due to allergies rather than a bacterial infection. My doctor has advised me that if no progress is >made by his next ear re-check ( January 7 ) he will be referring us to an

ear specialist. To me that automatically means tubes. While I don't like the fact that he has been on antibiotics for so long, especially when they aren't doing anything except building tolerances and causing antibiotic side effects, I am also very hesitant to jump right into tubes for a 9-month old What is your opinion on insertion of tubes? I have heard that it may cause more problems than it helps (ie. hearing loss, profuse drainage, re-insertion of tubes ). Also, would you recommend allergy testing at this point even though he shows none of the other symptoms you have listed on your " Straight talk for Parents on Ear Disease " page?

Thank you very much should you take the time to respond.

 

REPLY

Dear Mr. Stoner:

Your son of 9 months has all the classic signs of allergic otitis in that he has fluid but no signs of fever, discomfort or "infection".

With the fluid is probable hearing loss. Placement of tubes is essential usually to return hearing and to get the inflammatory mediators out of the ear which perpetuate the problem.

Having no other signs of allergy such as eczema, diaper rash, runny nose or continual upper respiratory infections means he is 1) lucky and 2) harder to diagnose. I would then try to change his milk to whatever else he is NOT currently drinking.

Your ENT should explain the other risks of tubes - which are minimal compared to the benefit they will bring your son.

Dr. Hurst

Dear Dr. Hurst

I am just writing to give you a summary of our past experience with our11 year old son. As a baby he had experience several bouts of infection and fluid in the middle ear. The specialist finally inserted tubes after a tonsil and< >adenoidectomy at 2years old. Since then he has had 10 insertion of tubes sometimes in one ear and< >sometimes in both. He does well while the tubes are in place but they do tend to come out on their own and he is ok for a while but then the hearing decreases and symptoms show that he is again due for another recheck. No one has ever mentioned allergies to us as being the cause and the specialist thought he would have outgrown the need for tubes before this.

His last comment when I asked how much longer we would keep inserting these tubes was "until he stops needing them." I am concerned about scar tissue and the permanent hearing loss that it could cause. We are very fortunate as Danny loves school and does extremely well. I have alerted his teachers about this every year and we usually can tell when things are starting to heat up with ears. We make visits to the audiologists to keep a check on the amount of hearing loss and usually it is no more then 35% in one ear and that is usually the worst.

Can you tell me anything about the possible effects of frequent insertion of these tubes and the scarring causing some complications. In the last couple of years we had switched to the "blue" tubes).... I think called grommets) so they would stay in better because of the anchors on them, but I really wonder if they do stay in better.Any comments you have would be appreciated.

PEI

Canada

 

REPLY

DEAR PEI:

Your child has allergies and needs a full evaluation for inhalants and food allergy before he has 10 sets of tubes!!

As for multiple tube insertions. There can be some scarring, but the bigger danger - especially in the "Permanent tubes" or large bore tubes/grommets is that they have a 30% or greater chance of permanent perforation rate if left after 6 months. Better the smaller tubes more frequently - they will buy you a year to find his ALLERGIES.

As for your comment that he has "ONLY 35% HEARING LOSS" is most frightening. We know that hearing loss in one ear for 3 months leads to speach and language delay. Fortunately your son is brighter than the average and is getting by in the system - but still not learning all that he is capable of learning. That is why he needs the tubes back in!

Good luck

Dr. Hurst

To:

MeEAR@earallergy.com

 

DEAR Dr. Hurst:

I am writing in twe hope that you can respond to this message.

My son now 3 had constant fluid drainage and ear infections from the age of 8 months for approx 2 years without any relief. After doses of antibiotics he had tubes inserted. They dislodged within 2 weeks only to have a second large set put in plus adenoidectomy. The adenoids did not seem enlarged at the time of surgery. Prior to the 2nd set of tubes I took my son off all dairy products for 20 days to no relief. He has never been tested for allergies. He was hospitalized for 2 weeks on intravenous drugs to stop the drainage as the surgeon suspected the ear trouble may have caused meningitis.Thankfully this was not the case. The drugs still did not clear up the ears.

Eventually his ears have cleared up. A new surgeon we went to took out the large tubes. My 10 month old son has just had his first ear infection with fluid in his ears. His first course of antibiotics have not cleared it up.

The thing is that I have not learned much through my first experience with my son. I don't know what I have done right or wrong. Will the ears eventually clear up without antibiotics? If the infection is viral why are we constantly perscribed antibiotics? We have no history of allergies in our family. My eldest son had mild eczema and my youngest has a few small eczema patches in his neck and body.

Thank you in advance for your time,

Miriam

 

REPLY:

Dear Mir and Joe

 

First, you have not done anything wrong. Your son is just a more severe case of the classic problem of allergic otitis that I have been talking about. Have your physician get a blood test - especiallly for foods from the lab I talk about. He will need some food and then later, some mold inhalant testing. When the ears do drain, usually Cortisporin drops will stop things. The Pseudomonal is just an opportunisic infection - not the cause.

Once they stop the allergen, then the ears will dry d luck,

Dr. Hurst
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